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Rules have been tentatively posted in the profile of

kittens_and_spitefic! Input is still welcome, naturally. Next up I'll be working on a comm description and at least one example post. (I've already got one roughly typed up, I just want to get a pinned post up first.)

Also, if anyone can direct me to a good tutorial on posting images to Dreamwidth, I would appreciate it very much! I know how to do it myself, but I suspect there are more than a few potential community members who don't, and I don't know if I have the patience to make my own tutorial as well.

I should also come up with a community icon. I'll have to see what I can find.

Edit: Tentative summary:

About this comm:

Spite can be an excellent motivator, but there aren't a lot of natural situations where you can prompt it to promote your preferred content. Nor is feeding the trolls ever a good idea. And just what are you going to do with all of the adorable pictures of cats and other animals you've been saving over the years?

Enter Kittens and Spitefic. The goal of this community is to prompt fan content by acting like a total troll and pretending to bash what you want to see up one side and down the other. Commenters then engage with the supposed "troll" by spamming them with cat (and other animal) macros and/or content that caters to everything the original poster professes to hate: Writing short (or long) fics in the comments, drawing the exact thing OP was ranting about, even sharing links to fic recs and meta/analysis posts. Roleplay getting one up on someone with bad opinions while creating more work for something you love, and discover new things you may be a fan of in the process!

Still not quite sure how it works? Check out [this 18+ example post] or [this all ages example post]!

Kittens and Spitefic: It's everything you want, with a very silly approach.

Inspired by pornandkittens

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Sounds good to me!

I'm afraid my only "tutorial" for posting images on DW is utilizing the basic HTML for it. Though a fair number of people don't realize that even basic DW accounts come with a certain amount of image hosting (though those images can't be shared outside of DW, it at least removes the struggle of "where to host an image" from the equation.)

Hmm, that reminds me; I might have a tutorial buried somewhere in my Dreamwidth How-To tag on Tumblr. I'll have to dig through and see.

I'm itching for you to finish setting up so I can link to it!

(Actually, I'm just always itchy at a baseline level, so maybe that's the reason I itch?)

I'm doing my best to open in the next couple of days, but it shouldn't be more than a week at most if I miss my self-imposed deadline. (Shamelessly aiming for the next Community Thursday? You bet!)

And it's up and running! I hope this scratches the itch 😉

I think the about looks great!

For posting images,

a simple copy paste might be the easiest?

Something like:

~~The div maxes the width for wider-screens while the width percentage in the img tag means that it dynamically resizes for mobile.~~ Just tested the Squidge code which doesn't have the div and I don't think the div is necessary (anymore?) so have removed it.

However, for people that aren't familiar with posting images on Dreamwidth, maybe a simple run through including the hosting space might be easist?

Using Dreamwidth hosting is probably the easiest, and it's pretty mobile-friendly too.

If you go to https://www.dreamwidth.org/file/new and dump in an image, you'll instantly get the code for for an embedded thumbnail and a link to the full size image that you can copy paste. There are also fields right there to add a title, short description (the alt text) and descriptions; if you click save the copy paste code will auto-update. The link to view all your images shows all images with more size options for embedding.

Example:

Or, if someone doesn't have space on their DW, or wants the ability to have albums, Squidge images (https://images.squidge.org) might be an option (although it should be fannish or fannish-adjacent so I'm not sure where that line is drawn).

You'll need to create an account but you can make everything unlisted (privacy is set on an album basis and also you can make your profile private). When you upload (link in top bar), you can put in an album, and set it as fandom or personal. The page will refresh and you can see options to edit the image (change title, add about, change privacy, etc.) but the key feature is that you'll get a massive list of all the kinds of links and embed codes, including full image (linked), medium image (linked), and thumbnail image (linked). Using the html for medium image linked:

This doesn't have an automated way to update the alt text though; the html code would need to be edited afterwards. The link in the code also links to the image page on Squidge Images, not just the direct image itself, which may be a drawback, and would also need to be edited in the html code if desired. It does also have markdown copy paste if you comment in markdown, thought I haven't tested it.

(Source photo credit: YoonJae Baik on Unsplash)

Anyway, I know you were asking for an image tutorial so I'm afraid I went off on a tangent! Please disregard as desired.

Edited (updated copy paste code section) 2022-10-20 03:12 (UTC)

Oh gosh, this looks great! I might just link to your comment, lol 😂 Really, I should've read it sooner, but I got distracted by getting the comm up and running 😅 I'll have to dig in more thoroughly later.

I was mostly just thinking through the process! I then later realized that the DW help docs probably have some tutorials as well 🤦 and they do! (Nice as hypothetically DW will update them if anything massive changes.)

How do I post an image in an entry?
How do I use Dreamwidth's image hosting? How do I manage my images once they've been uploaded?

I saw that you also found the guides you created in the past so that’s great!

I have custom skin turned off for entry posts/comments posts by default so it only occurred to me to check now, but I think it might be helpful to turn custom comment pages off for the comm if you think new to DW people might use it, since the site skin comment page is much more mobile friendly etc. That’s just my two cents, of course!

No worries, I didn't think of that, either 😂 I'll definitely be using those links now, though!

Oh, good suggestion about custom comment pages. I'll go take a look at that!

Also: Behold my new icon(s)!