Perfect timing?
Sep. 1st, 2010 01:59 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
soc_puppetNot too long ago, Dreamwidth decided to pass out a whole bunch of extra invite codes. Since I not only have ![[personal profile]](https://s.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
soc_puppet over there, but hooked_on_anime as well, and I hadn't even used up all of the invites from the previous dump on my first account, I ended up with a shitload of invites.
"Boy," I thought, "This would be the perfect time for LJ to do something stupid again!"
Hahahahahahaha. Yes. So funny. Hilarious, even. Except, yanno, not, in the worst-case-scenario extrapolated in the link. It's bad for accessibility, too.
The news post is66 71 96 pages and going strong; at least 95% of those comments are complaints about the "new feature" (barf), and the remaining five percent are complaints about backslashes no longer working in tags, the new header, or requests for the free August birthday gift (with a few trolls who are uninterested in understanding why this is a security problem). There's plenty of intersectionality, too.
There's a couple of ways to turn things off for -you-, if you're using Firefox: this add-on here allows you to block the site and links to it, and this Greasemonkey script seems to work as well (though that one's only on comments at the moment). Another Firefox hide-just-for-you method can be found here.
If you're using Chrome or Safari, there's info on how to use the Greasemonkey method over here.
As of now, there is no way to turn this off for other people visiting your journal. Even with locked posts, you are potentially leaving your fate in their hands.
For anyone looking for an alternative, I've got a good seventeen Dreamwidth invites that aren't doing anything else at the moment, and I can always request more. They make it nice and easy to move over, they actually care about their user base, and their latest news post was specifically addressing how they can make DW more accessible. If you're interested, drop a comment here and I'll set you up :3b
Edit: Tweeting of comments to a locked post has now been tested. Relevant quote: "Not only does that work, but you include the text of the comment -- posted in a LOCKED post -- as well as a link to the post."
Later in the thread: "According to the original news announcement, screened comments are also cross-postable."
Ick. On so many levels. Ick ick ick.
Edit 2: Details on how LJ is violating its own TOS/abuse policy can be found here.
Edit 3: Brad Cortland(?) tests out the FB interface. "When I logged in to LJ using this sock account, I got the standard, scary-as-hell FB interface message, telling me that this "application" (LJ) now has access to my profile and anything I post publicly on my FB account.
The intrusion goes both ways, folks. Not only can your private posts be cross-posted to Facebook, but if you link your accounts, LJ can access any information you have stored with FB."
Edit 4: More details of testing. Pretty much the only thing useful there is: "For Facebook, it will post the first paragraph (about) of what you wrote in a protected entry [or comment] up on your facebook page. This means that if you quoted text from the entry, it's suddenly public. [...] For Twitter, it posts the first sentence and also links back."
I'm going to assume we all already know that you can't actually see the whole entry unless you're on that filter, but even the first sentence/paragraph can be badly compromising.
Edit 5: Updating from parents' house, so not my home computer. Should've gotten this up sooner anyway, but I wasn't aware it was this bad; foolishly, I hadn't done the research.
LJ's reinstated pingback feature will pingback if someone links to your entry in a FLocked post - and will include the relevant text of the post in the pingback.
There's data collected on that part of the mess over this way.
Edit 6: Back at home! Some people in the news post are being beautifully imaginative, so I thought I might share a few ;)
* Seuss Parody
* "Interestingly, people often indicate that interpreting sarcasm is difficult on the internet. I look forward to finding out whether that is indeed the case."
* I know that my mother will be fascinated by the latest titillating installment of my super-powered vampire's torrid romance with the zombie princess next door, because who doesn't want to spread fandom squee with their mom?
* Personally, I think they're all huddling right inside the door, looking out at the hordes with the burning tar and torches, all nudging each other...
* Remember, Frank promised not to tell our secret birthday wishes!
* Dearest darlingestJohn Livejournal
* For people who need it spelled out
Edit 7: There's a link to some legal precedence for us over in this comment. "See Las Vegas vs Dunder Mifflin and understand that even if we aren't all privacified and locked down like Fort Knox, it doesn't necessarily mean we want everyone in the world--pretty much literally--tracking us down on LJ because somebody hit a button by accident."
Edit 8: LJ steps up the epic creepy: I just went to reply to a comment on this post, and the little 'connect with Facebook' button had the text by it, 'we will figure out who you are.' Includes screencap.
Edit 9: Update on the original news post: "Update: Thank you for taking the time to offer your honest feedback. We understand and appreciate your desire for privacy. We share your concerns. Most of us would not want to publish our LiveJournal usernames or FO comments to Facebook or Twitter either (to the extent we even use them). Please give us a little time to address your concerns. We are listening, and we'll do our best to respond.
LJ staffer comments to the same effect here, and points to a relevant poll. It only took 91 pages for them to get there (though I managed to find a link to the comment in question on page 56).
Edit 10 Long after I burnt out on sifting through comments (page 58 ^^a),![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
darknightrain kept going; she's got more links rounded up over here, including a (very conditional) way to turn off the TwitFace (love it XD) feature on paid/permanent/plus accounts for people other than you. Go take a look.
soc_puppet over there, but hooked_on_anime as well, and I hadn't even used up all of the invites from the previous dump on my first account, I ended up with a shitload of invites."Boy," I thought, "This would be the perfect time for LJ to do something stupid again!"
Hahahahahahaha. Yes. So funny. Hilarious, even. Except, yanno, not, in the worst-case-scenario extrapolated in the link. It's bad for accessibility, too.
The news post is
There's a couple of ways to turn things off for -you-, if you're using Firefox: this add-on here allows you to block the site and links to it, and this Greasemonkey script seems to work as well (though that one's only on comments at the moment). Another Firefox hide-just-for-you method can be found here.
If you're using Chrome or Safari, there's info on how to use the Greasemonkey method over here.
As of now, there is no way to turn this off for other people visiting your journal. Even with locked posts, you are potentially leaving your fate in their hands.
For anyone looking for an alternative, I've got a good seventeen Dreamwidth invites that aren't doing anything else at the moment, and I can always request more. They make it nice and easy to move over, they actually care about their user base, and their latest news post was specifically addressing how they can make DW more accessible. If you're interested, drop a comment here and I'll set you up :3b
Edit: Tweeting of comments to a locked post has now been tested. Relevant quote: "Not only does that work, but you include the text of the comment -- posted in a LOCKED post -- as well as a link to the post."
Later in the thread: "According to the original news announcement, screened comments are also cross-postable."
Ick. On so many levels. Ick ick ick.
Edit 2: Details on how LJ is violating its own TOS/abuse policy can be found here.
Edit 3: Brad Cortland(?) tests out the FB interface. "When I logged in to LJ using this sock account, I got the standard, scary-as-hell FB interface message, telling me that this "application" (LJ) now has access to my profile and anything I post publicly on my FB account.
The intrusion goes both ways, folks. Not only can your private posts be cross-posted to Facebook, but if you link your accounts, LJ can access any information you have stored with FB."
Edit 4: More details of testing. Pretty much the only thing useful there is: "For Facebook, it will post the first paragraph (about) of what you wrote in a protected entry [or comment] up on your facebook page. This means that if you quoted text from the entry, it's suddenly public. [...] For Twitter, it posts the first sentence and also links back."
I'm going to assume we all already know that you can't actually see the whole entry unless you're on that filter, but even the first sentence/paragraph can be badly compromising.
Edit 5: Updating from parents' house, so not my home computer. Should've gotten this up sooner anyway, but I wasn't aware it was this bad; foolishly, I hadn't done the research.
LJ's reinstated pingback feature will pingback if someone links to your entry in a FLocked post - and will include the relevant text of the post in the pingback.
There's data collected on that part of the mess over this way.
Edit 6: Back at home! Some people in the news post are being beautifully imaginative, so I thought I might share a few ;)
* Seuss Parody
* "Interestingly, people often indicate that interpreting sarcasm is difficult on the internet. I look forward to finding out whether that is indeed the case."
* I know that my mother will be fascinated by the latest titillating installment of my super-powered vampire's torrid romance with the zombie princess next door, because who doesn't want to spread fandom squee with their mom?
* Personally, I think they're all huddling right inside the door, looking out at the hordes with the burning tar and torches, all nudging each other...
* Remember, Frank promised not to tell our secret birthday wishes!
* Dearest darlingest
* For people who need it spelled out
Edit 7: There's a link to some legal precedence for us over in this comment. "See Las Vegas vs Dunder Mifflin and understand that even if we aren't all privacified and locked down like Fort Knox, it doesn't necessarily mean we want everyone in the world--pretty much literally--tracking us down on LJ because somebody hit a button by accident."
Edit 8: LJ steps up the epic creepy: I just went to reply to a comment on this post, and the little 'connect with Facebook' button had the text by it, 'we will figure out who you are.' Includes screencap.
Edit 9: Update on the original news post: "Update: Thank you for taking the time to offer your honest feedback. We understand and appreciate your desire for privacy. We share your concerns. Most of us would not want to publish our LiveJournal usernames or FO comments to Facebook or Twitter either (to the extent we even use them). Please give us a little time to address your concerns. We are listening, and we'll do our best to respond.
LJ staffer comments to the same effect here, and points to a relevant poll. It only took 91 pages for them to get there (though I managed to find a link to the comment in question on page 56).
Edit 10 Long after I burnt out on sifting through comments (page 58 ^^a),
darknightrain kept going; she's got more links rounded up over here, including a (very conditional) way to turn off the TwitFace (love it XD) feature on paid/permanent/plus accounts for people other than you. Go take a look.
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Date: 2010-09-01 10:33 pm (UTC)LJ, please stop sucking. Please.
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Date: 2010-09-01 10:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-02 12:22 am (UTC)Feel free to link away, anywhere and everywhere; I'm happy to provide a roundup on this particular mess.
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Date: 2010-09-02 04:32 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-09-02 05:24 pm (UTC)(Well, I already was there, but now I'm gonna actually start using it as my primary account.)
I've got to say, I hate how different sites are integrating. Like how you can use your Google or Facebook account on Youtube, how you have to get a Yahoo account if you want to have a Delicious etc etc. I get this horror vision of Internet's future where everything is done with one account, linked to your personal information.
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Date: 2010-09-02 08:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-03 07:23 am (UTC)......That is a terrifying vision.
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Date: 2010-09-03 04:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-03 07:56 pm (UTC)Would that be possible? For one company to own all the most popular services. D:
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Date: 2010-09-03 09:00 pm (UTC)But if a company just happened to own some of the most popular email clients, networking sites, video sites, blog engines etc. it wouldn't exactly be a monopoly. There will always be tons of competitors (even if they're not as popular) because the Internet is so damn huge. And those sites wouldn't actually be paid products, just freely accessible websites. There's no obligation to make sure your freely offered services work well with other sites, that's just a courtesy.
Google probably thinks that making all those services available with just one account is a great business idea, and some people probably want that. Just not me.
Creepy D:
Date: 2010-09-03 03:43 am (UTC)This really sours me more on lj.(facebook already is just made of fail for it's privacy issues)
Thanks for linking to this on the Wednesday Blogaround (I'm a regular reader mostly lurker there)
Re: Creepy D:
Date: 2010-09-03 07:55 pm (UTC)Absolutely :) I was pretty sure there were a fair number of LJ users over there, and wanted to make sure the info got around, so I'm glad it worked!
BTW, would you have any interest in a Dreamwidth invite code?
Re: Creepy D:
Date: 2010-09-04 03:53 am (UTC)I grabbed a free code from where someone listed a link to bunch of them on the news post, thank you anyways :) Now I have an account there, I hope more people get accounts there so moving there full time is viable.
Re: Creepy D:
Date: 2010-09-04 03:55 am (UTC)