Wrongderful Interests and Comics
May. 1st, 2007 08:36 pmIt's journal update time, go!
First of all, I've got some new interests in the ol' list now:
Gliese 581 c (only two people interested in this, wth)
The God Eaters
tree suffrage
Zach Braff: superhero
And also passive activism, but that's less interesting. I'm willing to go on at length for any of these, should anyone prove interested. Also, I find it criminal that only nine people have The God Eaters listed as an interest. Read the book and intrestify it DD: If anyone still needs a link to it, you can find one on my List of Best Things Ever, which is now on its thirty-eighth Best Thing :Db
And now I'm going to change the subject completely to American Comics!
I. I recently read through number fourteen of The Blue Beetle? And not only is it an awesome comic, I got a very, very wrongderful fic idea for it. Which I definitely shouldn't write. Absolutely not. But the rest of you should start reading the comic if you haven't already! (Most fun I've had in the DCU since Young Justice, I'm tellin' you.)
In closing, I'd like to wish you all a happy cross-quarter day, and shove a meme I yoinked from
lyzzle at you:
1. Comment in this post with a pairing, a character, or a threesome.
2. I shall write you back a paragraph explaining what I think about it (good, bad, indifferent) and why.
3. Let's discuss / argue / CAPSLOCK at each other about it! I only ask that you don't get insulted, angry, mean, or stupid.
4. I promise not to use the words "EWWW GROSS" even if that's what I'm thinking.
First of all, I've got some new interests in the ol' list now:
Gliese 581 c (only two people interested in this, wth)
The God Eaters
tree suffrage
Zach Braff: superhero
And also passive activism, but that's less interesting. I'm willing to go on at length for any of these, should anyone prove interested. Also, I find it criminal that only nine people have The God Eaters listed as an interest. Read the book and intrestify it DD: If anyone still needs a link to it, you can find one on my List of Best Things Ever, which is now on its thirty-eighth Best Thing :Db
And now I'm going to change the subject completely to American Comics!
I. I recently read through number fourteen of The Blue Beetle? And not only is it an awesome comic, I got a very, very wrongderful fic idea for it. Which I definitely shouldn't write. Absolutely not. But the rest of you should start reading the comic if you haven't already! (Most fun I've had in the DCU since Young Justice, I'm tellin' you.)
In closing, I'd like to wish you all a happy cross-quarter day, and shove a meme I yoinked from
1. Comment in this post with a pairing, a character, or a threesome.
2. I shall write you back a paragraph explaining what I think about it (good, bad, indifferent) and why.
3. Let's discuss / argue / CAPSLOCK at each other about it! I only ask that you don't get insulted, angry, mean, or stupid.
4. I promise not to use the words "EWWW GROSS" even if that's what I'm thinking.
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Date: 2007-05-02 02:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-05-02 02:34 am (UTC)Memage!
Date: 2007-05-02 02:35 am (UTC)Re: Memage!
Date: 2007-05-02 02:43 am (UTC)Er, I'll get back to you on that? Also, I'm on MSN, though only for another fifteen minutes or so.
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Date: 2007-05-02 02:47 am (UTC)Re: Memage!
Date: 2007-05-02 02:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-05-02 03:11 am (UTC)What are your thoughts on Goob?
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Date: 2007-05-02 02:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-05-02 04:25 pm (UTC)Greed/Lust
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Date: 2007-05-02 07:15 pm (UTC)Goob, huh? Well, all I can really think of off the top of my head is that he must not have been living with Lewis for very long, because otherwise his sleep schedule would've adjusted somehow. Also, as he was growing up into Bowler Hat Guy in the Alternate Timeline, he probably didn't get very good meals, which likely played a part in his 'mental issues'. I do kinda ship him pretty hard with Dor15, though ^^a
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Date: 2007-05-02 07:52 pm (UTC)What do you mean "Pat tops"?I'mma go ahead and assume you mean Original Greed and not GreedLing here. In which case, my first thought is probably "Hot". It's rare that you see two relatively grown people paired in anime or manga fandoms, let alone heterosexually. I can't really say that I actively 'ship either of them with someone, either, and there's the whole dubiously complimentary sense of the two of them being all about want. The characters themselves also push a number of my buttons. I'd say that in a situation where they didn't have to deal with a lot of outside pressure, I might 'ship them. With canon setup and background, though, I don't think it's too likely, except as possibly old flames with the occasional mostly-physical fling.
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Date: 2007-05-02 08:49 pm (UTC)I like the possibilities that this arrangement presents. I'm pretty sure that I liked Kaito/Aoko since I first read the manga, and then Icka slowly corrupted me to the wonders of Black-and-White, and, well, not only was Hakuba's crush thing on Aoko cute, it was canon. I feel like the two of them could work very well, in fact, if given a chance.
Threesomes are really hard to explain and justify in the best of times. It's because they're more than just three pairings of two people stuck together for convenience (even if they do start out that way). As far as Kaito, Aoko and Hakuba go, I feel they have a dynamic that could work well together.
For Aoko, she has Kaito to bring the magic to her life, the unpredictability, and Hakuba as a more lawful presence.
For Hakuba, Kaito is a challenge to who and what he is, something different to make him work harder and bring him out of his shell; Aoko is there to make the process easier, and to make sure he doesn't forget himself in the process - an anchor of sorts, to make sure he doesn't get too wrapped up in chasing Kaito.
For Kaito, Aoko is someone who's always been there for him, a comforting presense and something he wants to protect - but also someone who can be a moral compass of sorts for him, remind him why he's Kid in the first place; Hakuba keeps him in line, be it on the job or in street clothes, and is a stable influence in Kaito's life, something the boy dearly needs. He can lean on Hakuba in a way he can't rely on Aoko, if only because they have different ways of relating to each other, just as Aoko probably knows him better than Hakuba.
It's because they all have different meanings to each other that I feel it could work, that they could really create a sort of 'balance' together; it wouldn't be just two people with a third on the side, or one person who's seeing two, it would be three people who are genuinely interested in one another. And that, I think, is why I like them together.
...Good gravy, that got loooong o_O Er. The floor is now open? PS: Any chance you can get Friday the 11th off for ACen? If not, that's cool too, but I'd like to know ahead of time so I can make travel plans.
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Date: 2007-05-02 08:53 pm (UTC)That's an interesting concept. I'd always assumed that he must have been rooming with Lewis from the start, but you bring up a good point.
There's also the fact that we can assume he never left the orphanage, so he didn't have much human contact, if any, which has been proven to inevitably lead to insanity. What I really wanted out of this, though, is what you think he might be like now.
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Date: 2007-05-02 09:05 pm (UTC)Oh God yes, projective empathy ♥ So useful.
...Also, I have half a mind to write that Orpheus!Jet/Zuko fic and then have the two of them in the spirit world, except I can't figure out what nationality Ash would be. Kieran would be Earth Nation, but the only thing I could think of for Ash would be Water Tribe, and he doesn't really have the skin for it, even if I could get away with saying his hair is just "really light brown".
That's what I did too, at first, but the sleep thing doesn't work that way, so. And he went to school for at least a few years after Lewis was adopted, so I'm guessing his real isolation/malnutrition didn't start until the orphanage closed down.
As to what he's like now? Er, I'm tempted to think that when grown up after the change, his hygene is a lot better and he isn't bald. (I can so blame his hair loss on stress.) Or he at least has a better haircut. Possibly he got more into baseball, maybe even to the point of joining a league someday, and I want to assume that Cornelius still checks in with him sometimes. "Hey Wilbur, let's go see Uncle Goob! 8DDD"
DON'T MAKE ME WRITE IT, YOUNG LADY, BECAUSE I WILL. Also, that hat was good to him (for a certain value of good), and They Were So Married, Don't Deny It. Dor15 had him whipped. ((Mini-Dor15 = baby, d'awwwww ♥))no subject
Date: 2007-05-02 09:21 pm (UTC)Yay! I am totally feeling the Uncle Goob thing. XD
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Date: 2007-05-02 09:25 pm (UTC)But Water Tribe has blue eyes, and Earth Kingdom eyes are generally green. ...Though yes, excellent point re: abilities.
It would be awesome and hilarious. "Why are you here? ...Are you trying to test out another one of your 'inventions for athletes'? 'Cuz you know how I feel about those." "...Of course not, Goob! Now just put this helmet on..." "I'd run if I were you, Uncle Mike."
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Date: 2007-05-02 09:29 pm (UTC)...I didn't even consider that. But well, Kieran's eyes are odd for his nationality anyway, so...
A;kljasdf;lj. Yes. ♥♥♥♥♥
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Date: 2007-05-02 09:32 pm (UTC)"But Goob, it's for science!" "The last thing you did to me for science took my eyebrows off!"
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Date: 2007-05-02 09:36 pm (UTC)A;kljasdf. You must write this. D:
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Date: 2007-05-02 09:39 pm (UTC)...Fine. But you have to post that drabble thing first.
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Date: 2007-05-02 09:45 pm (UTC)...You drive a hard bargain.
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Date: 2007-05-02 09:48 pm (UTC)When the third season is half over already.I consider it perfectly reasonable, especially considering I'm writing you that Wilbur/Lewis enabling fic. ...Though if you need more convincing, you can make me cross-post both to your community of choice, and write another Wilbur/Lewis enabler to boot.
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Date: 2007-05-02 09:53 pm (UTC)...This is true. And also tempting. I will go post it as soon as I muster up the energy to get out of this chair and move to the other computer.
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Date: 2007-05-02 09:56 pm (UTC)I think?:Db Very good! I look forward to it.
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Date: 2007-05-03 07:28 am (UTC)The threesome Shinichi/Ran/Shiho?
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Date: 2007-05-03 07:32 am (UTC)Hakuba/Kaito/Aoko=MK OT3(with Hakuba/Kaito/Akako and Akako/Aoko/Kaito)XD
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Date: 2007-05-04 12:25 am (UTC)YES, VERY MUCH :Db ...Or I could just take a shortcut and OT4 the lot of 'em ;)
(PS: I love your icon XD)
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Date: 2007-05-04 12:43 am (UTC)I don't know, I love polyamorous relationship but OT3 is my personnal limit. I love to see a relationship taking place in an intimate and private space, I could picture that with two or three people implied, but with four or more..Well, it's too open to be an intimate space anymore for me...^__^; XD
Well, just my tastes and I don't know if I made myself clear.
(Except maybe in a fandom like Ouran when you could create a giant orgie of doom without problem...XD)
ps: Dagronrat is the creator.^_-
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Date: 2007-05-04 12:50 am (UTC)With Shin'ichi/Ran/Shiho, I think it's mostly the potential that draws me in. As canon stands now, I don't think it would end up as an entirely healthy threesome, especially right off the bat; Shiho and Ran don't really know each other well enough, don't have the history that Shiho and Shin'ichi or Shin'ichi and Ran have. It would end up feeling more like Shin'ichi had two girlfriends than anything to me. However, given time and the right circumstances, I think that it could definitely become something that worked. It would take a lot of effort and time, but I think the end result would be worth it. As to how they would make it work, well...
I think the first step would have to be in Ran and Shiho getting to know each other better. Shiho might already have some feelings for Ran, but they're likely mixed up with other emotions and burried besides. Ran, however, strikes me as a person who loves someone more the longer or better she knows them, and considering how important Shiho already is to Shin'ichi, I think she'd be very open to making the attempt. (That, or she'd be wildly jealous of Shiho...)
Once the girls' relationship starts getting better, I think it would be good for someone to give Shin'ichi the idea that yes, it can be okay to have two girlfriends, and no, you don't have to feel the exact same way about them as long as you love them both and no one gets hurt. And hey, if they become each other's girlfriends too in the process, no harm in that ;)
Shiho, I think, mostly needs convincing that she can get things she wants, and she doesn't have to sacrifice anything for it. Considering her past, I wouldn't be surprised if she tried to pull a martyer thing and not make a move on either Shin'ichi or Ran so they could be happy together and not get hurt. Ran and Shin'ichi would probably have to do a significant amount of convincing (or "convincing", wink wink nudge nudge ^_~) to help her understand that yes, she is wanted, and no, she doesn't have to do anything to 'deserve' it. Once they managed, though, it would probably be very good for her - Shiho needs one or two people to really love her, people who won't be going away any time soon, and considering their luck and abilities so far, Ran and Shin'ichi might just be those people.
So, in summation, it could definitely work (and be damn hot besides :Db), but not without a little effort on the parts of the characters.
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Date: 2007-05-04 12:53 am (UTC)Makes sense; reverse harem series are one thing, but after three people, the bed does start to get a little crowded ;) I mean, I've seen people make it work, but it definitely takes more effort than an OT3, and that already takes more effort than an OTP, so.
PS: Awesome ♥
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Date: 2007-05-04 08:21 am (UTC)Yes, I could so picture Shiho seeing herself like an outsider who put problem in a perfect relationship and who don't have the courage to leave Shinichi and Ran in their happyness. I could picture her thinking that Shinichi and Ran are accepting her because they're too soft-hearted to hurt her and not because she bring something into their happyness. And I could SO picture Shinichi and(mostly) Ran trying their best to convince her that, no, she could be loved and have become a part of their happyness.
In fact, it's this kind of issue wich made this threesome so fascinating for me.(I'm so a angst whore)XD
Ran could feel like an outsider between Shinichi and Shiho because those two shares a bond she couldn't have with them(they have shared the same situation with the apotoxin, have fighted the orgu together, have risked their lives for the happyness of the other, and Shiho is more familiar with Shinichi's world(crime) that Ran would ever be..).
Shiho could feel like an outsider between Shinichi and Ran because those two shares a bond she couldn't have with them(they know each other since childhood and Ai have seen how deep was Shinichi's love for Ran and Ran's love for Shinichi despites the separation which could have destroy it ).
In fact, both Ran and Shiho should realize that the kind of bond that each other is sharing with Shinichi is different but that it don't means that one is deeper than the other.To be more precise, they should realize that Shinichi is loving each of them differently but that it don't means that one of them is more loved than the other.
And for Ran,well, I picture her like the kind of person who will refuse to chose between the love of two people. After all, she wanted both of her parents and was forced to have only one most of her life, I think she would feel similarities with her situation with Shinichi and Shiho and her situation with her parents. That's why I picture her like the perfect character for a threesome(and if she loves both Shiho and Shinichi in a romantic way, it's more accurate for her to act like that).
That said, I agree that the relationship between Ran and Ai/Shiho and their knowledge of each other needs to become deeper that it was in the canon current state before that a polyamorous relationship could become a possibility for them.Not that I think it's hard(after all, RanxAi/Shiho is my OTP so I've no problem to picture that.X3)
Anyway, this threesome had so much potential for angst and so much potential for fluffyness and mutual comfort that it made burst in joy both the angst whore and the fluffy whore in me.^____^
And..Damn..This thread gives me plunnies..XD
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Date: 2007-05-04 08:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-05-04 07:55 pm (UTC)That's a very good point about Ran; I hadn't thought about it, but it makes a lot of sense there.
BUT YES, lots of potential, needs to be worked with more and stuff.
>3 I think this means I win ♥
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Date: 2007-05-04 08:37 pm (UTC)And since I've decided to try the Thirtyforthree challenge for this threesome(with Dag's help for translation), you could said that you have tops us..Hem..Win!Xp XD